Hpc Meeting Minutes
August 16, 2012
The Historic Preservation Commission met on Thursday, August 16th, 2012 at the City Council Chambers, 305 Gay Street. Katie Clendaniel chaired the meeting and called the meeting to order at approximately 7:00 p.m. Ms. Clendaniel began the meeting by taking roll call.
Commissioners Attending: Kathy Manicke, Chair; Brian Roche, Vice-Chair; Farrell McCoy; Dormaim Bromwell Green.
Absent: Katie Clendaniel
Other Representatives Attending: Dan Brandewie, City Planner II
Kathy Manicke presented the opening statement.
Oath Administered-Persons Wishing to Testify: Kathy Manicke administered the oath to all persons wishing to testify.
Approval of Minutes: May 17th, 2012, June 21st, 2012, July 19th, 2012 (unfinished).
HPC members stated that they would prefer to defer action on the June 21st minutes. Farrell McCoy moved to approve the May 17th, 2012 minutes, seconded by Dormaim Bromwell Green. Motion carried.
Kathy Manicke asked if there were any members of the audience or HPC that objected to these items being on the Consent Agenda and if anyone would like to address these cases. Hearing none, she asked for a motion from the Board on these items.
HPC# 06-13, 805 Locust St, Anastasia Spear (owner), installation of wood fence (after the fact installation) in rear yard area.
Farrell McCoy moved to approve Case No. 06-13 as a consent agenda item. Brian Roche seconded the motion. Motion carried.
HPC# 09-13, 104 Glenburn Ave., Benjamin and Grace Reed (owner)-B.A.S. Construction (contractor); replace 3 tab shingles on main part of house with low profile dimensional shingles with ridge vent.
Farrell McCoy moved to approve Case No. 09-13 as a consent agenda item. Dormaim Bromwell Green seconded the motion. Motion carried.
Regular Agenda Items
HPC# 07-13, 1109 Locust St., Aubrey Dean and Bonnie Wagner, (owners) installation of new door and window(s) in rear of house, siding to match; replace existing front doors with installation of prefabricated front door with upper and side transoms.
Mr. Brandewie provided the staff report and review the application. Staff recommends approval for the work in the rear of the house as the addition/removal of doors and windows do not appear to be detrimental to the overall character of the house visible from the street. Staff recommends that greater latitude be given to the applicants in this case since substantial changes in the rear of the structure have already been made over the years including the removal and addition of inappropriately sized doors and windows. Staff did have concerns with the proposed use of a pre-fabricated lead-lined glass front door with upper and side transom lights. This would replace a double door that is non-historical in character. There is a double transom window above the existing front door that appears to be original. The proposed "pre-fab" door with modern lead glass window elements would not be compatible with the historic character of the house. However, additional correspondence from the applicant indicates that lead lined glass panels in the transoms, side lights and in the door will not be installed. The owners have indicated that they will attempt to save the upper double transom window if possible but still may install elements of the front door and side transoms with a pre-fab unit.
There was no one to speak in favor or against the application and the HPC acted to close this portion of the public hearing. Discussion followed. Members agreed that it would be more appropriate to have exterior grids on any replacement windows.
Brian Roche made a motion as follows: (1) to approve the installation of 4 windows (2 over 2) as specified in first floor rear addition (only) of house (left and right sides) with the condition that the windows contain exterior grids or muntions to match existing windows; (2) installation of 38" x 82" fiberglass textured door in rear. The installation of a prefabricated front door unit with upper and side transoms is not approved at the present time without additional details and dimensions on opening width and height and design. Applicant is encouraged to resubmit with additional information. Seconded by Dormaim Bromwell Green. Motion carried.
HPC# 08-13, 604 William St., David Oliver provided an overview of the application. They are proposing to: (1) replace one story rear addition with two story addition on same footprint-siding, roof line, pitch, siding and roofing materials to match existing-new windows and door to be installed; (2) remove existing 9' x 16'yard shed in rear with 8' x 12' garden shed. Re-shingle side and rear roof addition with matching shingles.
Staff provided a staff report on the case: the 2nd story addition will replace a one story addition in the rear of the house on the same foot print. The drawings and specifications as provided support that the design appears to be context sensitive. Staff inspected the garden shed and there is damage to the bottom sill plates and rot evidence at the bottom of the structure; it is likely that it is not economically feasible to repair this building. This accessory building is somewhat of a contributing structure but is marginal in size and not readily viewed from the front street.
Mr. Oliver stated that the shed has rotted bottom supports and no floor in response to a question by the HPC. Hearing no further comment from the public, the HPC moved to close the discussion.
Farrell McCoy stated that consideration be given to having any new shed match existing. It was discussed that since this is a rear addition, replacing an existing one story room, there is wide latitude. HPC members found the plans to be in order.
Farrell McCoy moved to approve the application as submitted. Seconded by Brian Roche. Motion Carried.
Inactive Docket/Continuation Cases
HPC# 03-13, 816 Locust St., Joel Pautz (co-owner-applicant), replacement of wood fence in rear year area with 5 ft. vinyl fencing (after the fact installation); cover soffit, fascia, porch roof, columns with synthetic siding (specs to be provided). There was no on in attendance to present the application.
After further discussion, Brian Roche moved to allow the fence to remain but to deny any covering of existing features with no substitute materials. Seconded by Dormaim Bromwell Green. Motion carried.
HPC# 04-13, 200 Belvedere Ave., Cady Coe (owner), replace existing wood windows with replacement windows; replace front door, remove chimney; (Tabled from July meeting).
Cady Coe testified that the existing windows were damaged and it was not cost effective to repair them. She stated she has safety concerns with the existing windows and her children. She reviewed the specifications for the windows and discussed the front door and chimney situation.
Walter Judd commented on the general deteriorated condition of the house and the windows. Kathy Hollinger, who also lives on Belvedere spoke in favor of the application. Hearing no further comments from the public, the HPC acted to close the discussion.
HPC members discussed the proposed windows specifications and expressed concern about replacing the upper dormer windows which are a unique contributing feature of the house. After further discussion, Brian Roche moved as follows: to approve (1) removal of rear chimney only; (2) replacement of front door as specified; (3) replacement of windows to contain matching exterior grid patterns and the installation of casement style windows in the front upper dormer window to match existing. All specifications for windows including two windows adjacent to front chimney shall be submitted to staff prior to installation to confirm consistency with HPC direction and applicant's testimony at hearing. Seconded by Dormaim Bromwell Green. Motion carried.
HPC#48-12, 104 Willis St., installation of replacement of porch railing. Jeff Staton, contracted presented specifications for the porch railing components. He provided copies to HPC members. They are a TimberTeck product and not shiny vinyl PVC. The height at which they would be installed is still being research. Hearing no further comments, the HPC moved to close the discussion.
HPC members noted that the existing railings were not original to the house and this product appeared to be a reasonable replacement. Farrell McCoy moved to approve the application with the recommendation they be set at the lower height if possible; seconded by Dormaim Bromwell Green. Motion carried.
Administratively Approved/Routine Maintenance:
Mr. Brandewie reviewed the following applications approved administratively. There were no comments from the HPC members.
HPC-Adm_03-13, 411 Muse St., Muse Street LLC, replace center sign panel on existing sign at law office. Approved, July 17th, 2012.
HPC-Adm_04-13, 803 Locust St., minor roofing repairs on wrap around porch using matching shingles. Approved. August 1st, 2012.
HPC-Adm_05-13, 805 Locust St., installation of historic bricks on front sidewalks-work is consistent with guidelines. Approved, Aug. 2nd, 2012.
HPC-Adm_06-13, 600 Locust St., installation of ridge cap shingles as replacement and minor repairs to main roof body. Approved, July 17th, 2012.
HPC-Adm_07-13, 116 High Street; repoint-repairs to chimneys; temporary removal of shutters until repaired or replaced; Approved August 8th, 2012.
HPC-Adm_08-13, 1000 Locust St.; wrap sills and related window parts with vinyl/aluminum siding. Under consideration.
Other Business/Enforcement Update
There was no further discussion under Other Business or Enforcement update.
Ms. McCoy moved to adjourn the meeting at approximately 8:40 PM; seconded by Ms. Brown. Motion carried unanimously.
Daniel L. Brandewie
City Planner II